Jorge Ramos started with a simple statement: “Mr. Trump, I have a question about immigration.”
But before he could even ask his question at a Donald Trump press conference in Dubuque, Iowa on Tuesday evening, Trump’s booming voice drowned him out: “Sit down. Sit down. Sit dowwwwn.”
The confrontation between the Fusion TV anchor and the presidential hopeful—their first face-to-face meeting—quickly escalated, as Trump kicked Ramos out of the press conference. He later let him back in for more verbal sparring.
As Ramos said he had a right to ask a question, saying, “I am an immigrant,” Trump jeered, “go back to Univision.”
A security guard escorted Ramos out of the room, as Ramos repeated, “Don’t touch me, I have the right to ask a question.”
After Ramos was escorted out, Trump kept talking. “I don’t know, I don’t know really much about him,” Trump told reporters, even though he once shared Ramos’ personal phone number with the world. “I don’t believe I’ve ever met him, except he started screaming. I didn’t escort him out, you’ll have to talk to security whoever security escorted him out.”
“I don’t mind if he comes back, frankly,” Trump added.
Later, Ramos was let back in to the press conference, and the two started to engage in a discussion, finally asking his question about how feasible Trump’s plan actually is. “Here’s the problem with your immigration plan: it’s full of empty promises,” Ramos said. “You cannot deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, you cannot deny citizenship to the children in this country.”
Specifically addressing his comments on “anchor babies,” Trump said, “there are great legal scholars, the top, who say that’s absolutely wrong.”
Trump also responded to Ramos’ comments that building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border is impossible. “Very easy, I’m a builder… What’s more complicated [than building a wall] is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?”
Trump responded that he planned to deal with immigration problems “in a very humane fashion.”
“I have a bigger heart than you do,” he told Ramos. “I can’t deal with this,” he added after Ramos spoke back.
Ramos has spoken out in recent weeks against Trump’s plans to deport millions of undocumented Americans and build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Watch the full event below: